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Here in Florida (yay Florida), if you happen to have an intelligent vet, you can get a note saying that in her/his opinion the rabies shot would be detrimental to the animal's health. Then they will spay/neuter without it. Sometimes vets ask if the animal is current on shots and you can just say yes, without lying, because the shots last for so long.

I am lucky to have holistic vet friends and also have actually found a conventional vet who will work with me. He even did a dental extraction w/o requiring antibiotics and gave Arnica and DMSO immediately after the extraction! Had to share this because it's so unusual and I feel so lucky!

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What city are you in and what is your vets name? 🙏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

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I'm in Ft. Lauderdale. The conventional vet I went to is Dr. Soler in N. Miami Beach. Please say I recommended him if you go.

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On Rage: I worked in the training dept at a guide dog school. A puppy was returned from the 4-H raiser for severe aggression over toys. We laughed because it was like a 4 month old cute little Golden Retriever puppy...until we introduced a toy. Then it went straight for your throat - every single time. All the high level trainers were brought it, all illicited the same response. A year later, when the siblings came in for training, every one was rejected for severe aggressive behavior. Damnedest thing I ever saw. Wondeting if there could be a correlation between vaccines and certain genetic lines? I have seen autoimmune diseases in cats in certain lines, one gen after another after vaccinating.

On H5N1: Monarch Raw has posted on their website: "We want to assure our cistomers and the public that these claims are not substantiated by any scientific evidence at this time". With NW Naturals, they did finally test "unopened" bags of the same batch, with no positive results.

Thank you for the info on titer testing. Ive been doing it for 3 yrars, so this will be my next deep dive.

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Wow on the pup, and the siblings! Every good homeopathic MD will ask her patients to list off the diseases of the parents and grandparents, as we've long noticed inherited tendencies passed down the generations.

Add that understanding to probably 70 generations of vac'd dogs against rabies, and it all makes more sense. I'm glad so many saw this behavior, especially high level trainers. Anything y'all can do to help people dial back the number of vaccines they allow, the better.

And thanks for the verification on negative testing of H5N1. As I expected, FDA not splashing positive tests, but keeping the negatives quiet.

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Also to be considered, perhaps the vial of the vaccine was contaminated and hit all the

siblings with the same

contaminant. Could that cause the result? The Cutter Incident in infants and toddlers is basically this— ai think 13 died post-vax and they discovered a “hot lot” had been delivered to Cutter. After that, the FDA/CDC began scattering the lots. They SHOULD have stopped vaxxines.

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My first (and only) experience with "Rage Syndrome" was back in 1977. I had sold a one-year old miniature poodle bitch to an exhibitor in Napa, CA. The bitch (Trisha) was kept at a professional handler's kennel until age 1 1/2 and after finishing her championship went to live with her owner in Napa. The owner had approximately 12 poodles, both toy and miniature, in her kennels. She called me one day; very distraught. Out of the blue Trisha had exploded in a vicious rage and had not only attacked the owner but also killed several champion toy poodles in the kennel. The owner required sutures all up and down her arms. She had been seriously injured trying to break up the attacks. I felt positively terrible but had nothing to offer but my shock and sympathy. Trisha had never exhibited any signs of an aggressive temperament whatsoever.

A few months later I happened to pick up a dog publication called "Poodle Review" and there was a small, rather obscure article about a phenomena being observed in some dogs and the authors referred to it as "Rage Syndrome." The article described Trisha's sudden attacks almost perfectly yet the authors had no real idea as to the cause. Thinking back, they likely attributed it to genetics.

What I can say is that poor Trisha had been vaccinated for rabies several times in her short life in order to attend the dog shows. She would have received the full battery of shots again for a health certificate to be flown to her new owner.

I can say with certainty that none of Trisha's brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents or other relatives in her background ever suffered from any type of Rage Syndrome and this is why I tend to believe the problem is a result of vaccines and not genetics.

Trisha's owner always regretted not having an autopsy done and I have no idea if this procedure would have yielded any relevant information.

It was a very sad time.

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Oh my goodness! That's amazing and horrifying! Actually killing others of her kind, and at such a young age. So, I guess the name of the syndrome goes back much further than my article revealed (made it sound like an invented name from Dr. Teller).

I'd guess there weren't many rabies vaccines in such a youngster, either. Trouble is now, we can see this even in unvaccinated dogs, because we've been giving the rabies vaccine to so many prior generations. The campaigns to rabies vax in the U.S. began post-WWII.

Thanks for sharing this, Dana.

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You're welcome.

It was truly a horrifying experience. I made an error. For reference, the name of the publication that printed the short article was "Poodle Variety."

I would say, based on what I recall that she had probably received three rabies vaccines by that age. The handlers tended to vaccinate more often since the dogs were on the road and there was concern about exposure to disease.

That's amazing that this syndrome is now being found in unvaccinated dogs. I have always wondered when the rabies vax became standard procedure in the U.S. Thanks for the info...very interesting!

I always enjoy your articles.

Kind regards,

Dana

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I'm seeing a pattern of these behaviors being especially prevalent in labradors and lab mixes, the more I look into it. I went through a period of seriously wondering if this was what was going on with my Bullador (am bulldog x lab) puppy who is now 15mos. I got him at 8 weeks, he had not received rabies but got a 6-in-1 at only 6 weeks of age (not my choice). I noticed from the beginning something was different with this guy, extremely restless (and I'm not talking about normal puppy energy, but he could never stop moving and looking for the next "thing" he wanted to do, couldn't maintian any behavior, like chewing a toy or whatever, for more than a few seconds at a time, and never lay down outside of his pen). Then came the humping, which I soon picked up on being seemingly triggered by either frustration or overexcitement, but it got to the point of being almost constant. He couldn't even have a pet bed (I had to make one special that he couldnt flip over) and I couldn't play *with* him, ever, because it would always trigger him (so difficult to explain to people who don't understand and ask if they can play with him!). We even had to put away the back cushions from our furniture for a time. Crate training was going fine until it wasn't, and he suddenly panicked like he was fighting for his life if we even moved towards the crate at night. Same reaction with being tied up, which was so bad I only ever tried it once. Any kind of restraint is out, and the first few months he HATED being pet (that improved with detoxing and lots of training). We've worked on seperation on and off from day one and he still cant be left alone for more than a minute or two.

But once adolescence kicked in he began getting *very* irritable and frustrated about almost everything, and started jumping up and biting my hands/arms and growling. Small things like turning back onto our road to head home after a walk, or seeing people on a walk and not being able to meet them, or being told he can't go outside because he just came back in, sometimes it wasn't clear at all what caused it, but if he felt frustrated or got too excited he'd go full cujo. I started looking into rage syndrome and wondering, but I also learned about hyperarousal disorder, which seemed to fit, along with adhd-like behavior. I started looking into natural treatments for adhd, adjusted his diet, and started detoxing- first with ALA to get rid of mercury, which helped some, then zeolite which made his behavior SO much worse I had to stop. Now we're doing milk thistle and he's still improving, hasn't gotten bitey in several months and the humping has decreased (but still an issue). The biggest change I'm seeing in him is more awareness and trying to control himself when he's starting to feel upset (and of course I'm trying to get better at reading him and management to keep him from feeling stressed, which is very difficult).

I fully believe the shots caused this, as detoxing is helping. I also wouldn't be surprised if there were any epigenetic effects passed on from his mother (labrador) who was very likely over vaccinated as well. For a while I was very definitely thinking about consulting a veterinary behaviorist but I really don't want to just put him on psych meds. I'm encouraged by the progress we're making and praying that, between his hormones balancing as he matures, and more detox, along with training, he continues to improve. But I sure wish more people would wake up about the harm vaccines cause in pets and kids/people alike.

Thank you for sharing your valuable insights and bringing some sanity to the conversation (and validation for us pet parents who feel like we don't have a voice or are just written off as being "crazy").

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Crazy is the behavior, also know as "brain on fire," which can be caused by ANY vaccines. So glad this is improving with your careful work and his maturity.

What is ALA please? And how wild that zeolite made him so much worse?

Epigenetic is an appropriate word in this instance. In homeopathy, we speak of it in terms of inherited chronic disease, but I think it's an energetic inheritance more that a change in genes themselves.

If you reach a plateau you can't seem to surmount, hire a qualified homeopathic vet. This video will help you search them out: https://youtu.be/XyEklB8W6M0 Thanks for sharing this, Johanna.

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Thank you for the link, I will look into this! Brain On Fire is probably the perfect way to describe him, like a constant irritation that is always driving him on without rest.

And yes to Cara C. - Alpha Lipoic Acid, used as part of a mercury chelating protocol by the late great Dr. Andrew Cutler, who helped with a lot of kids with neurodevelopmental and behavioral disorders. ALA, which is able to cross the blood brain barrier, is used in very small amounts and given at its half-life in the body (every 3 hrs) to prevent re-settling of the mercury in other parts of the body. I've used it on my pittie, who has since passed, for behavioral changes I saw after overvaccinating her at a young age and it helped significantly.

Again, thank you so much for what you do!

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The toxins, namely polysorbates, in childhood vaccines and certain pet vaccines as well, pass or breach the BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER and cart toxins like formaldehyde and alcohol (yea, we inject infant humans with these!) right past the BBB as well. Their brains are literally on fire/inflammed. It’s the saddest most frustrating thing…

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Yes, so upsetting!

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Probably Alpha Lipoic Acid.

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I’m in Pharma research & have at least a little more knowledge of this that the average person. I’ve also been open to learning as a novice about vaccine technology for 10+ years.

Have not given our last 2 dogs any rabies jabs from puppy-hood onward, (inside dogs) and am glad to read this new correlation info! It makes a lot of sense.

Thank you !

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It's crazy you would write about this Dr. Will, I just had a conversation with someone that has 2 angry springers on Facebook. Back then we knew of it as "springer rage". This is what I told her, hopefully she will look into it.

I'm a retired vet tech, one of the most disturbing things I saw while working was in about the year 2000 when a sweet male springer patient had been dropped off for the day for vaccines. I had known this sweet boy several years. I took him out front to his owners when they came to pick him up and out of the blue he turned around and lunged on me. I was able to get a hold of his neck and hold him down til someone else got the leash and pulled him away from me as I was letting go. He went on to continue attacking people, including his owner. It was diagnosed as "Springer rage". Sadly, he was put down. I'm now thinking this condition was likely brought on by rabies vaccine. 😢 Now I'm wondering how many other dog attacks were a result if this.

I told her to please look into vaccinosis and miasms, and recommended she find a homeopathic vet.

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I think I've seen a couple of Springers who I had to be cautious around, but nothing like this. Wow. Years of normal, and then a lunge with full malice. And, he was likely an annual vaccines guy, just betting…

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Lesa, maybe too far back to remember, but: Was Rabies vaccine one of the burst he got the day he went berserk? That would be amazingly rapid if true.

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I wish I could remember for sure, but I'm 99% sure he was dropped off for annual vaccines. This would have included the rabies vaccine, as I don't believe we had started the 3 year rabies at that point.

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I agree: sounds likely rabies was part of it. This is the fastest onset of aggression after a rabies shot I’ve ever heard of! Reading so many comments of scary changes is a wake up call, even to me, who’s long known about it. Thanks to all who contributed!

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Yes, I had a dog become very aggressive towards my other dogs and cat. This was after a rabies vaccine. I don’t remember how long after. I worked with Dr Dee Blanco on homeopathic and holistic treatments. It took a while but she completely turned around.

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Thanks, Dawn. So glad to hear this.

And, anyone reading this, you can get similar responses with a trained, qualified homeopathic vet, but the remedy that finally cured Dawn's dog won't likely be the one that cures your aggressive, raging dog. Such is homeopathy. We treat the individual, not the disease name, so every case is different.

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Both my dog are Boston terrier and blue healer mix. After they received their first rabies shot they both became instantly ready to fight each other. One of my dogs developed skin issues immediately. It’s been trial and error using different homeopathic remedies on them. They are now both 13.

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My bitch is super gentle and loving. No rage.

Straight after I stupidly had her rabies-jabbed, she started foraging for leaves and grass.

I mentioned this to the vet, who could not imagine a cause.

I understand that dogs can eat grass for indigestion, but this is different, btw.

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Right: a nibble of grass, even on the regular is normal dog behavior. Eating like a cow is a symptom, one every homeopathic vet will want to hear more about. The old rabies reports would include dogs swallowing wool. I had a patient who'd eat a bar of soap, given the chance!

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Thank you for this article! We have two cats - both vaccine-injured (against our permission) and both have severe Rage Syndrome which I'd never heard of until reading this. Calvin and Tommy are textbook examples! I'm looking into homeopathic remedies for them and have narrowed it down to three or four. After further reading, I will choose one to start. It'll be difficult to administer as they are THAT crazy - almost feral crazy when they are not having any nonsense. We'll have to secure and dose them then attempt a nail trim - hope we don't lose too much blood....

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Trick for cats: crush the remedy and mix with cream. Offer first before regular meal.

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My dog suffers from rage syndrome. It started before he was a year old. He was a very loving silver lab. He sleeps on the bed with my husband and I. One night he woke and started growling and baring his teeth. Since then, periodically he has bouts of rage. He will suddenly go after my husband seemingly for no apparent reason. It eventually turned into him actually snapping and biting us when he has an episode. The vet blames his genes. When I take him to the vet now I have to muzzle him. I hate it and try to avoid the vet as much as possible because of it. I have made the decision not to have him vaccinated again. He is "due" for a rabies vaccine next year. My family tells me I should have him put down because of his rage. My daughter just had a baby (they live with us) and my family is afraid he will go after her.

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Not safe around babies, that's for certain. Cure is possible, though, but only with a qualified homeopathic vet. Here's how to search one out, distance be damned: https://youtu.be/XyEklB8W6M0

And, as you can imagine, more rabies shots will only make this worse. I wish you rapid betterment on the way to cure.

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I have reached out to a vet that looks promising. I have asked the pertinent questions and am awaiting a reply. They are located down the street from my homeopathic practitioner. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

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Denise, can you give me a rough timing between a rabies shot and the onset of this behavior? This is such a tale of caution that I'd like to share it if you're amenable. It gives me chills to think of a baby in household with a dog so altered that an attack is possible.

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Hi Dr Falconer,

You have to understand that we were very careful when we searched "Mookie" out. We researched breeders and got feed back from other owners before we purchased him. We live in NH and the breeder was from West Virginia. He has great genes. The reason being we had a silver lab named "Ozzy" that we had purchased as a puppy in 2016. It turned out the person we got him from was over breeding his dogs. Ozzy was diagnosed with a liver shunt when he was 4 months old. We use to take him to Tufts animal hospital for treatment. We were told with the right diet and medications he could live quite a while, happily. In 2018 something started to attack his blood and they couldn't reverse it. We had to put him down just after his 2nd birthday. We were heartbroken. He was the sweetest dog we had ever had. Our dog trainer wanted to hire him to greet people at the door! He loved everyone and everyone loved him.

I've been trying to figure out the exact timing to his rabies vaccination. It was close but I just can't remember how close. It was a matter of months from our visit to the vet and his "booster" vaccine. We brought him to the vet in March of 2019 and he received a 1 year rabies vax. He was about 4 months old at that time. The following year in February he received a 3 year "booster". I want to say it was April when the first incident of aggression happened. When we first talked to our vet, they didn't think much of it. (Later, she blamed his genes. She makes us muzzle him and drug him before we go to the office. I hate it, and Mookie hates it. It makes for a very stressful vet visit.) We went to our dog trainer, and she believed it was a possession aggression. She thought he was being possessive of his harness. Someone gets to close and he goes off. She had us take it off unless we were actually going for a walk or needed for him to have his tags. There will be long periods of time where he is perfectly fine. The normal lab. Then something goes off in his head and he goes berserk. The latest episode was just before Thanksgiving this past year. We took him to the groomers for a nail cut and a tubby. They put a bandana around his neck and when we went to take it off he went wild on my husband and started biting his hands and arms. It was my fault because I should have told them not to put anything like that on him. He doesn't like clothes. But his reaction was not normal.

I have no problem with you using his story. I hope other people can avoid the mistake of a rabies vaccine. I just want my lovable lab back. It will absolutely break our hearts if we have to have Mookie put down. My heart can only take so much loss. Our 33 year old son died over this past summer. I'm not sure I can take much more.

I had left a follow up message that I had found a vet I thought looked promising. I sent all the questions and was waiting for a reply back. I still have not heard back. I spoke to my holistic practitioner and she gave me the name of a holistic vet that I will be getting in contact with. They don't appear to have a website unfortunately.

Thank you for your knowledge.

Denise Pomerleau

Mason NH

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Thanks for the expanded view. This is rabies vaccinosis, no question. And the label "holistic" is self applied and I doubt seriously anyone but a qualified homeopathic vet will be able to cure this. (Cure means: after treatment, the disease is no longer there, gone, but the patient overall, feels and acts better and this well state continues without further treatment.) Here's how I suggest sorting out the real deal, as someone could also claim to be "homeopathic" after a weekend course and has no inkling about curing chronic disease: https://youtu.be/XyEklB8W6M0

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I had to go through all his records to refresh my memory. We used the info in your video on how to find a vet and found someone with a 75-99% patient ratio in Maine. We will be contacting them to see what we can do. We are hoping we can do it via the phone since we can't be sure that we can get a leash on and off him after the episode at Thanksgiving.

Thank you so very much for your knowledge and encouragement. I really didn't want to have to put Mookie down. We love him and he's really a good boy.

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Our chocolate lab has had 2 anger outbursts like that -- one where he actually bit my husband and broke the skin. Now I'm very curious how far after his vaccines both of those incidents happened. I think the first one was only a week or 2 after -- we had moved very far from the only home he'd ever known, it was in the 90's, and he refused to get out of the car when we were unloading. I reached into the car to try to get him to come out and Koda snapped at me. He didn't break the skin. We had had him vaccinated by the vet at our old place just before we moved. Then just this past fall, which would have been probably about a month after his vaccines (maybe 2 months?) again it was in the car. My husband had taken him for a ride and when we got home, Koda refused to get out of the car. My husband reached in towards him and Koda bit his hand. This is a dog who's afraid of his own shadow, stands between our legs whenever a stranger comes near him, and hides in the closet when he hears loud noises. I never EVER would have attributed these incidents to a vaccine but wow - my mind is reeling right now.

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Ok I just pulled up his records and he did NOT get a rabies vaccine right before we moved, but he did get lyme, leptospirosis, and kennel cough. Of course I'm still wondering if any of those played a role. It was literally 5 days before the day he snapped at me.

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I'd ascribe the change due not directly to the last shot, but rather to the immune suppression the combo probably caused. Rabies vacc is likely the root, as those others aren't so behavioral in their illness symptoms. Nothing like the nervous system rabies virus.

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Heartbreaking. I have pondered asking my vet to “pretend” to give my dog the rabies vax. Maybe I could just leave the room and nobody would ever know if she got the shot or not. The big problem is, here in Maine anyway, if your dog bites someone and is not “up to date” on her rabies, she will be quarantined in a state kennel for six months. Ugh. I also wonder if it would be helpful to make sure the vet aspirates the injection to make sure they’re not injecting it right into a blood vessel.

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If you haven't yet, join the Vital Animal Pack here: https://vitalanimal.com/join-vital-animal-pack/ and in your freebie library, you'll be able to download the Compendium of Animal Rabies, which I've highlighted for you. Pretty sure an out of date bite is no longer 6 mo. quarantine, but you'll find it in that PDF.

Of course, Animal Control may do what ever they choose, but if you print that out and show it to them, that's the experts' view of what's best practices.

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I don’t see the compendium, only the Knowledge Is Power link, which says there’s no enrollment right now.

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I would share the fear.

But first, I would absolutely detox her as much as possible.

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Telling the vet you will email them with proof of rabies in 24 hrs doesn’t always work! I had 2 different offices tell me they could call and verify at whatever ofc I had it done at. The one ofc I told them that the new home getting the dog was going to update her shots (lie) and they made me sign a paper stating that I refused vaccines. It’s soooo frustrating

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But, were these vets from spay/neuter clinics? The ones who do only this work?

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Hi Will, So pleased to find your great newsletter. I'm a retired human homeopath who ended up taking care of quite a few of my own and patient's animals (never charged cause not a vet) because of the paucity of homeopathic vets. Out of curiosity I once had rabies titers pulled on two of my horses who had been vaccinated by their previous owner 10 years prior. To my surprise, one came back in the high range and the other in the medium range, After ten years! I was glad I did that because afterwards the barn owner and the farm vet didn't bring up vaccines to me anymore. Of course I understand your point that doing titers solely to bolster an argument against vaccination could backfire because of their usual waning presence over time.

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That was a great lesson, though. I have a colleague in NYS who measured her own rabies titer, and it continuing rising for years w/o another shot since what we all got in vet school!

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My almost 4-yr-old female GSD developed "The Itch," with concomitant scratching & sores 2 years ago after lepto & rabies vaccines. Since taking your vaccine course, I now know better. No more jabs for her. Canine derm only recommended Apoquel & other immunosuppressants which are a no-go for me. I've tried topical treatments to no avail. Do you know of any detox therapies or other holistic means of getting her itching under control? My poor sweet girl is miserable, & I'm desperate.

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Yes, Catie, the cure takes time, but visit the video link above I added to Johanna's reply. Homeopathy can cure it, just a bit of a long road and far from DIY. And good on you for not falling for Apoquel.

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My pittie found a lot of relief when we switched to a low-starch homemade diet to starve yeast plus oil if oregano for yeast flares, along with regular liver detoxes (liver creates histamine when overburdened), vitamin c (antihistamine, amazing for ear infections especially at higher amounts (I gave 1000mg for my 65lb girl, stopped ear infections cold). Also licorice root extract, a natural steroid that boosts the immune system, but do research/consult a holistic vet before use as prolonged use can deplete potassium and there are some contraindications for certain dogs.

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Thank you SO MUCH! I'm going to try your recommendations! Do you apply the oil of oregano topically or directly in her food? What strength & dose do you use? Also, may I ask what you use for liver detox? We don't have a single holistic vet within 100 miles of us, so I'm kind of on my own here. I'm a human medical provider (NP), so I understand med doses, etc...Again, thank you so much for your advice!

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Oil of oregano is a little tricky because it's a "hot" oil and can burn if not diluted properly. You can use it topically (again, properly diluted, but I don't have experience to say how) but I prefer to use it internally in a capsule. The form I use is undiluted, so 100% pure with minimum 86% Carvacrol (Zane Hellas brand, but I'm sure any reputable brand would work, just be sure there aren't any other ingredients). You can also get prediluted forms, but I've never done that, so I wouldn't know about dosages for that. For my 65lb girl, I filled a 00 capsule most of the way with olive oil and put just one drop of oregano oil, and gave it right after a meal to avoid tummy upset. Just be mindful that if a dog is picky and chews the capsule open its going to be pretty unpleasant for them.

Liver detox I use milk thistle. I did buy a combo herbal product years ago for her with burdock root and dandelion as well, but I don't remember specifics or doses. Again, you probably want to do your own research, but my current routine for my own dogs is 1/4tsp ground milk thistle brewed as tea for abt 30 min, given with food 3x/day for 2 weeks for my 55lb and 90ish lb dogs. (Probably tincture would be a lot easier but I have a bunch of the milk thistle seeds on hand, so its what I use.)

Sorry so wordy, but hopefully it makes sense & is able to help in some way!

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Thank you....this has been SO helpful!

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Talk to Dr. Jeff Levy about Willow. He's been working with us for nine years due to inherited rabies miasm. It took us about two years to remove the worst of her symptoms: rage "seizures". You can call it whatever you want but anyone in their right mind would have euthanized her - except for myself and Dr. Jeff. Is she perfect now? Nope. She still has moments where she loses it but nothing compared to what was happening when she was 5 months to 2 ½ years old. And we're working on other symptoms still. A couple months away from her 10th birthday, she's a wonderful girl and I couldn't imagine my life without her.

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I’ve never seen this in a dog, but I have a cat who fits this bill to a tee. So very affectionate, and then turns and strikes hard like a rattlesnake, digging in even harder with his claws and teeth when you try to pull away. In his case, the behavior existed before vaccination. He was a feral rescue as a tiny 6-week-old kitten, found dehydrated and almost non-responsive in the hot sun. I’ve always assumed he suffered some kind of brain damage from sun stroke.

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I've had a couple patients like this. When the right remedy is found, it turns off like a light switch.

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Any idea what the remedy is? I have an 88-year-old mom he’s injured several times. She now keeps her distance from him, regardless of how lovey-dovey he appears…

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It’s different for each individual. Takes a good intake by a professional, and it might take a few attempts before the best fit is found. I no longer take patients, but here’s a way to sort among my colleagues still in practice: https://youtu.be/XyEklB8W6M0

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Thank you so much, Doc!

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