In my not-so-humble opinion this issue was a direct result of Retail Re$cues and the $helter Pet $tore industries trafficking in dogs from other countries; places with zero oversight on disease, paradise vectors, nutrition, basic care for animals.
Shipping in dogs with ACTIVE rabies, canine brucellosis, canine influenza, new strains of parvovirus and distemper. Plus fun parasites like the Asian longhorn swarming tick.
If these practices had been stopped decadescago, responsible dog owners would not be having these restrictions now
Catering to the heartstrings of animal loving individuals, who thing their donations actually go to help animals.
One Retail Re$cue in the northeast regularly ships in dogs trafficked into ports in Florida and re$ells them quickly.
The dogs are brought in, usually by air, then packed into crates (sometimes 3-4 in a crate (something that would get a regular pet owner a huge fine) and driven up the coast.
Dogs in crates the whole way.
A while back one organization was selling dogs out of semi trailers in parking lots. Cash only, no recourse for sick dogs. That was eventually, thankfully, shut down.
OMG. I had no idea this industry existed. Do you have any links? They need to be shut down, and while this ruling is going to hammer the wrong people, if it shuts these crooks out of business, it’s done some good.
The diseases you mentioned are all right on: not tested for and potentially as nasty as rabies. Brucellosis can be a human disease for example.
Yes. This us all true. Very few are doing it out of altruistic reasons. It's ALL about the $$$$ . They make huge profits. Its not unlike the human trafficking that goes on.
While my heart breaks for the plight of foreign dogs in need, I have always felt that, for every dog imported by rescues, there's one American dog that will likely be pts due to lack of adoption. We already have a huge problem with over-crowded shelters here, why not fix that first? Charity begins in the home, as the saying goes. Taking it a step further, why couldn't these rescues start awareness campaigns and fundraisers to start rescue and adoption efforts *within* the countries themselves, rather than bringing the dogs here? Just a thought. Thanks for the update, along with your valuable insight!
When one looks into the history of rabies and the methods used to diagnose the disease, it becomes undeniable that the mythical status that surrounds this fear-based fictional narrative fed to the masses throughout the centuries is entirely unjustified and unwarranted. There is literally nothing there in support of rabies as a distinct disease caused by a specific “virus” that is transmitted to humans through the bite of a sick animal. If we were to lay out the facts in front of a jury, it would be an easy conviction:
1. The pivotal moments of discovery in the late 19th century were built upon the fraudulent foundations laid out by Louis Pasteur, a man who manipulated and massaged his own data in order to sell his theories and his vaccine for fame and fortune.
2. The supposed “isolation” of the “virus” didn’t even take place until nearly a century after Pasteur admitted to never identifying a causative agent and yet it missed the necessary requirement of showing any indirect evidence of the “virus” highjacking the cell as the culture lacked any evidence of the cytopathogenic effect.
3. The actual correlation between animal bites and symptoms of disease was considered highly uncertain and those who were attacked and bitten by clearly rabid animals could easily forgo any treatments without any ill health effects.
4. The incubation period for the disease is inconsistent and is said to range anywhere from 6 weeks on up to 25 years before the development of symptoms.
5. The severe symptoms associated with rabies are a rare occurrence in nature and are in fact seen most frequently as an adverse reaction to the vaccine said to contain neurotropic ingredients.
6. The acknowledgment by Pasteur of “false rabies,” which was said to be brought about solely by FEAR of aquiring the disease as well as alcohol and/or drug use, was used to take attention away from his vaccine causing injury and death.
7. The statistics regarding rabies cases were considered unreliable due to the lackl of any specifuc disease-defining symptoms as many diseases in animals and humans mimic the clinical picture.
8. The diagnosis of rabies, for much of its history, relied upon clinical symptoms and the histopathological findings related to encephalitis and Negri bodies, all of which are non-specific and are not suitable as a diagnostic measure for the disease, thus calling into question any case statistics related to rabies.
9. The only way to claim pathogenicity of the “virus” is by way of the completely unnatural route of intracranial inoculation of diseased brain and nervous tissues directly into the brains of dogs and mice.
10. The more recent modern method of direct fluorescence antibody tests, considered the “gold standard” diagnostic test, is claimed to be highly sensitive and specific, yet the results of the tests are open to human interpretation and have been shown in reviews to have low sensitivity and varied specificity.
The narrative surrounding rabies is based upon many primal fears. It plays on the fear of death, the fear of the unknown, and the fear of mutilation. Just like the rabid animal lurking in the shadows ready to strike, the “virus” hides inside the body once infected, waiting for the right moment to unleash a painful and excruciating death unless the infected leaps for the miracle cure in time. If they are a moment too late and the symptoms set in, it’s game over. This same scenario is regularly sold to the masses in our daily entertainment with the recent zombie craze. One must be afraid of the bite. Once bitten, the “virus” takes hold and the victim is condemned to certain death.
I have followed you for your homeopathic wisdom and prior to me learning the blatant lies of contagious pathogens, your more sensible view of illnesses and vaccines. I really encourage you to read this well written and well cited paper debunking the existence of a rabies "virus". If not now, then when? If we keep letting them lie to us about pathogens, this is what we create for ourselves. More lies and more people feeling forced to inject unnecessary poison into their pets.
No author listing his/her name? Nah. They didn’t do their research, they’ve simply got an agenda. I don’t buy the premise of “no pathogens,” or “viruses are a hoax.”
If you did an ounce of looking, that is Mike Stone. His agenda is actually reading the studies and doing the research so he can present it in one place for others. It is shameful you can't even be bothered to do the reading (the studies are all referenced right in front of you). Since you purport he didn't do the research how about you present the evidence for contagion; you are making the positive claim they exist and and contagious. Be sure you understand what isolation means before you send bogus papers of cell culture soup that don't show actual evidence of contagion by natural means eliciting the same symptoms the supposed virus is suppose to cause from a sick person/animal to a well person/animal.
A great read on this is Dr.Tom Cowan's book "the contagion myth" and look at the body of work of researcher Stephan Lanka (sp?). Also look at Arthur Firstenberg (sp?) body of work on electro magnetic fields and "disease" symptoms.
It is a bit troubling that Dr Will does not seem to be able to at least accept the notion that the so-called science of virology has come under a lot of scrutiny and leaves a lot of questions about its validity. His response on his website references a video of two "virologists" who make a less than convincing argument for the existence of rabies. Very troubling.
Dr. Sam's video is probably the worst smear piece I've ever seen. I pulled it apart on X when someone wrote "What About Rabies," her title.
Does no one think it's odd that none of these virus naysayers has interviewed virologists and rabies experts? Unless I'm missing something, I don't think anyone has. So, are we all to believe thousands of virologists, for decades, have been fools? Or are trying to make us fools?
What's more, no one putting up these frivolous arguments accounts for the 59K people in tropical countries that die annually of rabies. Is it something else that makes their throats seize up when they try to drink? Did their saliva, full of virions seen on electron microscopy, not really exist? Was it all in their heads? Did they die of paralysis because they believed they would? None of them were vac'd, by the way, so you can't blame that for their deaths.
I simply don't choose to waste my time on such nonsense. If you want to cling to your alternate reality, that's your choice. It's not mine.
I agree, it is very troubling indeed. Thank you for sharing the links. And Christine's work. She has done such an incredible job compiling all of that info!
These new regulations are ludicrous for families traveling with pets leaving the United States and going into Canada then returning to the US. Both countries are considered by the CDC as low risk for the instance of rabies in dogs.
Particularly burdensome is the requirement that the certification of vaccination and an examination by a vet (saying the dog is healthy) cannot be more than 30 days old at the time of entry. For families with weekend and recreational properties that cross the border often this will be a logistical burden and a significant cost - potentially a monthly visit to the vet for the exam and certificate. Veterinarians are already overwhelmed as it is as there is a growing shortage of them. Further, for people such as myself who travel in RVs with their dogs going to Alaska, this presents a nightmare as there will be numerous border crossings back-and-forth between the United States and Canada on their trips. This summer I will be leaving my home in Virginia and will be gone over three months, and therefore cannot possibly meet the 30 day requirement of examination by a USDA certified veterinarian that the CDC is now imposing.
Reading the statistics - only one case of rabies on average every two years in the United States due to dog bite, and no statistic showing the origin of the dogs concerned were from outside the United States (rabies has domestic reservoirs in many species of wild animals transmissible to dogs), one has to wonder why the CDC would impose such onerous protections where almost no risk appears to exist from dogs that have been vaccinated within Canada and the United States.
The burden on Customs and Border Protection, the paperwork, the expense, and the advance planning required will be a particular burden on many families who do not travel without their four-legged family members in tow. There must be many thousands of frequent border crossers who will be affected - and against what risk?
One other thing that disturbs me greatly. When I asked whether those dogs who were already microchipped, but who did not have ISO Compliant chips, I was told that they MUST have ISO Compliant chips. Which means another foreign body injected into their bodies, and ANOTHER round of rabies vaccines because the dog must be micro chipped first and vaccinated second. Clearly, they are not thinking about the health of the dogs.
My dogs always come with me. We have traveled 80,000 miles in the last 6 years all over the US and Canada and I would never leave them home. I am going to have my vet examine my dogs and then write out a written statement as to the health of each of my dogs. I am hoping that will work. I think that there is going to be massive confusion the first six months regarding all the requirements and hopefully they will let things slide a little bit. If not, I guess I’ll be living in Canada for a while!
I did same for 35 years however, it's unlikely to work in this new scenario. Once the border folks receive the marching orders of what paperwork, no one will get away with a veterinary health certificate. :-(
Unfortunately, I hear that both CKC & AKC tried and failed to budge the CDC. They are not going to alter this. Ironic that just a few short years ago CDC announced that Canada was canine rabies free and that the border did not require to see proof of vax. Also, just so you know, these "rescue" operations are not altruistic...they are in it for the MONEY. They post dogs on their Websites, citizens adopt the dogs UNSEEN and the adopting person pays The adoption fee, the cost for the crate, the cost for the transport and the dog is shipped under the person's name , not the rescue name. And the person picks the dog up at the airport . So many of these dogs actually wind up in SPCA Etc after adoption because they come here with serious behavioral problems like human aggression or aggression towards other dogs or animals and illnesses that the new owner cant deal with. Any of these rescues that are doing it for altruistic reasons, I agree with your stance on that. There are many dogs in shelters here that are American or Canadian born dogs who require homes. :-(
I was for 35 years an NR breeder. My dogs were unvaxed & very healthy. This rule breaks my heart. Itll be the end of NR LONG LIVED dogs! Rìght now my oldest is 17 and doing pretty well. I also have a niggly feeling in my gut that this is being done to prevent breeders in Canada and the US from breeding and exporting their dogs back and forth because the powers that be want us eating bugs and not having pets. I also understand that this rule only applies to dogs and not cats who also can carry rabies! So I can go back and forth with my kitty cats but not with my dogs!? This is very very insane.
Yes, way too much ignorance around titers, I’m afraid. And the good news: a few states are enlightened enough to accept a titer in lieu of another rabies shot. I think it was Delaware who really broke ground on that.
In my not-so-humble opinion this issue was a direct result of Retail Re$cues and the $helter Pet $tore industries trafficking in dogs from other countries; places with zero oversight on disease, paradise vectors, nutrition, basic care for animals.
Shipping in dogs with ACTIVE rabies, canine brucellosis, canine influenza, new strains of parvovirus and distemper. Plus fun parasites like the Asian longhorn swarming tick.
If these practices had been stopped decadescago, responsible dog owners would not be having these restrictions now
Wow, I had no idea such orgs existed! Are they catering to the other rescuers at a profit? Playing on their heart strings?
Catering to the heartstrings of animal loving individuals, who thing their donations actually go to help animals.
One Retail Re$cue in the northeast regularly ships in dogs trafficked into ports in Florida and re$ells them quickly.
The dogs are brought in, usually by air, then packed into crates (sometimes 3-4 in a crate (something that would get a regular pet owner a huge fine) and driven up the coast.
Dogs in crates the whole way.
A while back one organization was selling dogs out of semi trailers in parking lots. Cash only, no recourse for sick dogs. That was eventually, thankfully, shut down.
OMG. I had no idea this industry existed. Do you have any links? They need to be shut down, and while this ruling is going to hammer the wrong people, if it shuts these crooks out of business, it’s done some good.
The diseases you mentioned are all right on: not tested for and potentially as nasty as rabies. Brucellosis can be a human disease for example.
Yes. This us all true. Very few are doing it out of altruistic reasons. It's ALL about the $$$$ . They make huge profits. Its not unlike the human trafficking that goes on.
Yuck. Worst case scenario for dogs and buyers, sounds like. Now I know why the ruling has been made, clearly.
While my heart breaks for the plight of foreign dogs in need, I have always felt that, for every dog imported by rescues, there's one American dog that will likely be pts due to lack of adoption. We already have a huge problem with over-crowded shelters here, why not fix that first? Charity begins in the home, as the saying goes. Taking it a step further, why couldn't these rescues start awareness campaigns and fundraisers to start rescue and adoption efforts *within* the countries themselves, rather than bringing the dogs here? Just a thought. Thanks for the update, along with your valuable insight!
Good thought, though cultural differences being what they are… Still, a better effort than importing potentially sick dogs.
Because they are doing it as a business to make money...its the equivalent of human trafficking....
When one looks into the history of rabies and the methods used to diagnose the disease, it becomes undeniable that the mythical status that surrounds this fear-based fictional narrative fed to the masses throughout the centuries is entirely unjustified and unwarranted. There is literally nothing there in support of rabies as a distinct disease caused by a specific “virus” that is transmitted to humans through the bite of a sick animal. If we were to lay out the facts in front of a jury, it would be an easy conviction:
1. The pivotal moments of discovery in the late 19th century were built upon the fraudulent foundations laid out by Louis Pasteur, a man who manipulated and massaged his own data in order to sell his theories and his vaccine for fame and fortune.
2. The supposed “isolation” of the “virus” didn’t even take place until nearly a century after Pasteur admitted to never identifying a causative agent and yet it missed the necessary requirement of showing any indirect evidence of the “virus” highjacking the cell as the culture lacked any evidence of the cytopathogenic effect.
3. The actual correlation between animal bites and symptoms of disease was considered highly uncertain and those who were attacked and bitten by clearly rabid animals could easily forgo any treatments without any ill health effects.
4. The incubation period for the disease is inconsistent and is said to range anywhere from 6 weeks on up to 25 years before the development of symptoms.
5. The severe symptoms associated with rabies are a rare occurrence in nature and are in fact seen most frequently as an adverse reaction to the vaccine said to contain neurotropic ingredients.
6. The acknowledgment by Pasteur of “false rabies,” which was said to be brought about solely by FEAR of aquiring the disease as well as alcohol and/or drug use, was used to take attention away from his vaccine causing injury and death.
7. The statistics regarding rabies cases were considered unreliable due to the lackl of any specifuc disease-defining symptoms as many diseases in animals and humans mimic the clinical picture.
8. The diagnosis of rabies, for much of its history, relied upon clinical symptoms and the histopathological findings related to encephalitis and Negri bodies, all of which are non-specific and are not suitable as a diagnostic measure for the disease, thus calling into question any case statistics related to rabies.
9. The only way to claim pathogenicity of the “virus” is by way of the completely unnatural route of intracranial inoculation of diseased brain and nervous tissues directly into the brains of dogs and mice.
10. The more recent modern method of direct fluorescence antibody tests, considered the “gold standard” diagnostic test, is claimed to be highly sensitive and specific, yet the results of the tests are open to human interpretation and have been shown in reviews to have low sensitivity and varied specificity.
The narrative surrounding rabies is based upon many primal fears. It plays on the fear of death, the fear of the unknown, and the fear of mutilation. Just like the rabid animal lurking in the shadows ready to strike, the “virus” hides inside the body once infected, waiting for the right moment to unleash a painful and excruciating death unless the infected leaps for the miracle cure in time. If they are a moment too late and the symptoms set in, it’s game over. This same scenario is regularly sold to the masses in our daily entertainment with the recent zombie craze. One must be afraid of the bite. Once bitten, the “virus” takes hold and the victim is condemned to certain death.
https://open.substack.com/pub/unbekoming/p/rabies?r=bb5t5&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
Appreciate your voice of reason in this highly debated super emotional topic.
I have followed you for your homeopathic wisdom and prior to me learning the blatant lies of contagious pathogens, your more sensible view of illnesses and vaccines. I really encourage you to read this well written and well cited paper debunking the existence of a rabies "virus". If not now, then when? If we keep letting them lie to us about pathogens, this is what we create for ourselves. More lies and more people feeling forced to inject unnecessary poison into their pets.
https://viroliegy.com/2022/08/08/rabies-the-virus-of-fear/
No author listing his/her name? Nah. They didn’t do their research, they’ve simply got an agenda. I don’t buy the premise of “no pathogens,” or “viruses are a hoax.”
If you did an ounce of looking, that is Mike Stone. His agenda is actually reading the studies and doing the research so he can present it in one place for others. It is shameful you can't even be bothered to do the reading (the studies are all referenced right in front of you). Since you purport he didn't do the research how about you present the evidence for contagion; you are making the positive claim they exist and and contagious. Be sure you understand what isolation means before you send bogus papers of cell culture soup that don't show actual evidence of contagion by natural means eliciting the same symptoms the supposed virus is suppose to cause from a sick person/animal to a well person/animal.
A great read on this is Dr.Tom Cowan's book "the contagion myth" and look at the body of work of researcher Stephan Lanka (sp?). Also look at Arthur Firstenberg (sp?) body of work on electro magnetic fields and "disease" symptoms.
Thank you for sharing this info! Stefan Lanka is amazing.
To add to the discussion here is summary from Dr. Sam Bailey.
https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/what-about-rabies/
And while we are at it how about Parvo?
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/cdc-experts-fail-to-cite-scientific
It is a bit troubling that Dr Will does not seem to be able to at least accept the notion that the so-called science of virology has come under a lot of scrutiny and leaves a lot of questions about its validity. His response on his website references a video of two "virologists" who make a less than convincing argument for the existence of rabies. Very troubling.
Dr. Sam's video is probably the worst smear piece I've ever seen. I pulled it apart on X when someone wrote "What About Rabies," her title.
Does no one think it's odd that none of these virus naysayers has interviewed virologists and rabies experts? Unless I'm missing something, I don't think anyone has. So, are we all to believe thousands of virologists, for decades, have been fools? Or are trying to make us fools?
What's more, no one putting up these frivolous arguments accounts for the 59K people in tropical countries that die annually of rabies. Is it something else that makes their throats seize up when they try to drink? Did their saliva, full of virions seen on electron microscopy, not really exist? Was it all in their heads? Did they die of paralysis because they believed they would? None of them were vac'd, by the way, so you can't blame that for their deaths.
I simply don't choose to waste my time on such nonsense. If you want to cling to your alternate reality, that's your choice. It's not mine.
I agree, it is very troubling indeed. Thank you for sharing the links. And Christine's work. She has done such an incredible job compiling all of that info!
These new regulations are ludicrous for families traveling with pets leaving the United States and going into Canada then returning to the US. Both countries are considered by the CDC as low risk for the instance of rabies in dogs.
Particularly burdensome is the requirement that the certification of vaccination and an examination by a vet (saying the dog is healthy) cannot be more than 30 days old at the time of entry. For families with weekend and recreational properties that cross the border often this will be a logistical burden and a significant cost - potentially a monthly visit to the vet for the exam and certificate. Veterinarians are already overwhelmed as it is as there is a growing shortage of them. Further, for people such as myself who travel in RVs with their dogs going to Alaska, this presents a nightmare as there will be numerous border crossings back-and-forth between the United States and Canada on their trips. This summer I will be leaving my home in Virginia and will be gone over three months, and therefore cannot possibly meet the 30 day requirement of examination by a USDA certified veterinarian that the CDC is now imposing.
Reading the statistics - only one case of rabies on average every two years in the United States due to dog bite, and no statistic showing the origin of the dogs concerned were from outside the United States (rabies has domestic reservoirs in many species of wild animals transmissible to dogs), one has to wonder why the CDC would impose such onerous protections where almost no risk appears to exist from dogs that have been vaccinated within Canada and the United States.
The burden on Customs and Border Protection, the paperwork, the expense, and the advance planning required will be a particular burden on many families who do not travel without their four-legged family members in tow. There must be many thousands of frequent border crossers who will be affected - and against what risk?
I’m pretty sure this ruling came about by imported rabies from 3rd world “rescues.”
And yes: it clearly needs work for people like you and others who have zero risk animals.
One other thing that disturbs me greatly. When I asked whether those dogs who were already microchipped, but who did not have ISO Compliant chips, I was told that they MUST have ISO Compliant chips. Which means another foreign body injected into their bodies, and ANOTHER round of rabies vaccines because the dog must be micro chipped first and vaccinated second. Clearly, they are not thinking about the health of the dogs.
Crazy that they don't recognize previous chips.
Goal: REDUCE recreational/ leisure travel;
Bind the most innocent family creature in frustrating red tape! 🤣
I almost cancelled my vacation, which has been on my bucket list for over 10 years, because of this.
What are you doing instead of cancelling, Ginny? Rerouting? Dogs staying home?
My dogs always come with me. We have traveled 80,000 miles in the last 6 years all over the US and Canada and I would never leave them home. I am going to have my vet examine my dogs and then write out a written statement as to the health of each of my dogs. I am hoping that will work. I think that there is going to be massive confusion the first six months regarding all the requirements and hopefully they will let things slide a little bit. If not, I guess I’ll be living in Canada for a while!
This has worked before: How To Avoid ALL Vaccinations and Show to Champion Status (a past client of mine, though I think all in the U.S.) https://vitalanimal.com/avoiding-rabies-vaccination/
I did same for 35 years however, it's unlikely to work in this new scenario. Once the border folks receive the marching orders of what paperwork, no one will get away with a veterinary health certificate. :-(
Unfortunately, I hear that both CKC & AKC tried and failed to budge the CDC. They are not going to alter this. Ironic that just a few short years ago CDC announced that Canada was canine rabies free and that the border did not require to see proof of vax. Also, just so you know, these "rescue" operations are not altruistic...they are in it for the MONEY. They post dogs on their Websites, citizens adopt the dogs UNSEEN and the adopting person pays The adoption fee, the cost for the crate, the cost for the transport and the dog is shipped under the person's name , not the rescue name. And the person picks the dog up at the airport . So many of these dogs actually wind up in SPCA Etc after adoption because they come here with serious behavioral problems like human aggression or aggression towards other dogs or animals and illnesses that the new owner cant deal with. Any of these rescues that are doing it for altruistic reasons, I agree with your stance on that. There are many dogs in shelters here that are American or Canadian born dogs who require homes. :-(
I was for 35 years an NR breeder. My dogs were unvaxed & very healthy. This rule breaks my heart. Itll be the end of NR LONG LIVED dogs! Rìght now my oldest is 17 and doing pretty well. I also have a niggly feeling in my gut that this is being done to prevent breeders in Canada and the US from breeding and exporting their dogs back and forth because the powers that be want us eating bugs and not having pets. I also understand that this rule only applies to dogs and not cats who also can carry rabies! So I can go back and forth with my kitty cats but not with my dogs!? This is very very insane.
Canada brought in its ban a few years ago. https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/cn-ad/cn22-21-eng.html
Yes, way too much ignorance around titers, I’m afraid. And the good news: a few states are enlightened enough to accept a titer in lieu of another rabies shot. I think it was Delaware who really broke ground on that.